Comments on: And Dad Can’t Bust You http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/ Mon, 04 May 2009 20:16:06 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: sandista http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/#comment-403 sandista Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:51:40 +0000 http://firstfloor.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-403 i understand the impulse. i haven't read it in almost 2 full years. as it turns out, sometimes there IS important stuff in there! as a safety precaution, i suggest asking a friend to leave you a post-it note when there's an important deadline approaching. it's like having a personal assistant, except you don't have to pay them! i understand the impulse. i haven’t read it in almost 2 full years. as it turns out, sometimes there IS important stuff in there!

as a safety precaution, i suggest asking a friend to leave you a post-it note when there’s an important deadline approaching. it’s like having a personal assistant, except you don’t have to pay them!

]]> By: Andrew http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/#comment-396 Andrew Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:52:05 +0000 http://firstfloor.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-396 Sandista - Thanks for the cliff notes. When I see a long comment I tend not to read it, much like the docket. Sandista - Thanks for the cliff notes. When I see a long comment I tend not to read it, much like the docket.

]]> By: Steve Wieland http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/#comment-394 Steve Wieland Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:46:02 +0000 http://firstfloor.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-394 The university also contacted me to participate in an MDMA study (MDMA = ecstasy). Turns out I was ineligible. The university also contacted me to participate in an MDMA study (MDMA = ecstasy). Turns out I was ineligible.

]]> By: AFRO http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/#comment-392 AFRO Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:41:18 +0000 http://firstfloor.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-392 There is a Professor at the law school who was shameless in his admission that he attempted to sign up for a similar study, but was rejected due to his advanced age. I'll say nothing more. There is a Professor at the law school who was shameless in his admission that he attempted to sign up for a similar study, but was rejected due to his advanced age.

I’ll say nothing more.

]]> By: Nick G http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/#comment-391 Nick G Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:33:35 +0000 http://firstfloor.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-391 Thanks for the heads up Steve. Two more points to add. 1. The UIHC has an excellent movie selection that you can watch while participating in these studies. 2. For those of you who don't enjoy pot but would still like to make an important contribution to the medical sciences, feel free to shop around a little for other studies. For instance, I was paid 500 dollars to participate in a morphine/codeine study in undergrad and it was by far the BEST JOB I've ever had. The staff was amazing, the food was passable, and I got to make my contribution to science while watching "12 monkeys" and salivating on my collar. Highly recommended. Thanks for the heads up Steve.

Two more points to add.

1. The UIHC has an excellent movie selection that you can watch while participating in these studies.

2. For those of you who don’t enjoy pot but would still like to make an important contribution to the medical sciences, feel free to shop around a little for other studies.

For instance, I was paid 500 dollars to participate in a morphine/codeine study in undergrad and it was by far the BEST JOB I’ve ever had. The staff was amazing, the food was passable, and I got to make my contribution to science while watching “12 monkeys” and salivating on my collar.

Highly recommended.

]]> By: sandista http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/#comment-390 sandista Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:54:20 +0000 http://firstfloor.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-390 the cliff notes for brian's comment: it's totally not cool that this would reflect poorly on a bar application, because attorneys participate in much shadier shit all the time. in other thoughts: students often overlook the opportunities to participate in research studies here at UI. It's for a good cause! and sometimes you get paid!! alot!!! and sometimes you receive vaccines for deadly illnesses (woo!woo!)! check out opportunities at: http://www.uihealthcare.com/depts/clinicaltrials/volunteer.html the cliff notes for brian’s comment: it’s totally not cool that this would reflect poorly on a bar application, because attorneys participate in much shadier shit all the time.

in other thoughts: students often overlook the opportunities to participate in research studies here at UI. It’s for a good cause! and sometimes you get paid!! alot!!! and sometimes you receive vaccines for deadly illnesses (woo!woo!)!

check out opportunities at:
http://www.uihealthcare.com/depts/clinicaltrials/volunteer.html

]]> By: Jaren http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/#comment-389 Jaren Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:41:26 +0000 http://firstfloor.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-389 I would be completely down for this if I wasn’t so afraid of becoming an addict. ;) I would be completely down for this if I wasn’t so afraid of becoming an addict. ;)

]]> By: Bryan http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/#comment-387 Bryan Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:27:12 +0000 http://firstfloor.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-387 I still love how all the lawyers in school are worried about getting a speeding ticket (and having to report it to the big bad bar) or doing something totally legal and ethical (i.e. this study) and yet we look at the utter lack of morality and ethic in some of our practicing peers that is "common practice" and its pushed aside. That said, am I the only person who would do this study and then if asked by the bar say "I participated in a federally funded study on the effects of marry jane and really enjoyed my contribution to science" . While the bar may be the ethical police at some level (which is why people are afraid of them because societies ethics almost certainly never completely translate into a person sense of ethics that are applicable to any one person) they are also governed by the law, and if you check out case law and past instances of reprimand etc, it is NOT the case that they arbitrarily apply their own ethic upon applicants, they are bound within the framework of law and their own rules and act accordingly. You actually have to be a fairly "bad" individual to get smacked real hard by the Iowa Bar. Check out the case where the guy was an accused child molester and people actually came forward and said as much, yet the Supreme's in Iowa overturned the bar when they rejected him because there were no articulable convictions of fact on record etc. I still love how all the lawyers in school are worried about getting a speeding ticket (and having to report it to the big bad bar) or doing something totally legal and ethical (i.e. this study) and yet we look at the utter lack of morality and ethic in some of our practicing peers that is “common practice” and its pushed aside.

That said, am I the only person who would do this study and then if asked by the bar say “I participated in a federally funded study on the effects of marry jane and really enjoyed my contribution to science” .

While the bar may be the ethical police at some level (which is why people are afraid of them because societies ethics almost certainly never completely translate into a person sense of ethics that are applicable to any one person) they are also governed by the law, and if you check out case law and past instances of reprimand etc, it is NOT the case that they arbitrarily apply their own ethic upon applicants, they are bound within the framework of law and their own rules and act accordingly. You actually have to be a fairly “bad” individual to get smacked real hard by the Iowa Bar.

Check out the case where the guy was an accused child molester and people actually came forward and said as much, yet the Supreme’s in Iowa overturned the bar when they rejected him because there were no articulable convictions of fact on record etc.

]]> By: kevindawson http://firstflooriowa.com/2008/04/28/and-dad-cant-bust-you/#comment-386 kevindawson Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:55:37 +0000 http://firstfloor.wordpress.com/?p=138#comment-386 is there a "but i did it for science!" box you can check when filling out the application to the state bar? if not, count me out. is there a “but i did it for science!” box you can check when filling out the application to the state bar? if not, count me out.

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